May 11, 2014

No Justice for Nicole or Ron: Kim Goldman, Ron Goldman's Sister, " Dreamed of Squishing the Juice."

By Elizabeth Nelson 

When someone has wronged us, forgiveness is a powerful thing, even when that someone hasn't asked for it. It doesn't free them, it takes the power they hold over our lives from them, and frees us to live our lives, free from anger and bitterness.
However, there are some people that don't see it that way. Unfortunately, to them, they look at the other side of the coin, and that coin is a different color. To them it looks more like we are giving them a "free pass" on all the hurts, trespasses and wrongs that they inflicted upon us; Kim Goldman is the later of these two types of people.  

You might remember her name ... she's Ron Goldman's sister.  You remember him, he was OJ Simpson's second victim, and she can't seem to forgive him, twenty years later, to the point where she's had murderous dreams about him and wrote a book, "Can't Forgive," about how she had the chance to kill him, but chose not to act on it.


Here's Kim's startling revelation and the truest difference between a cold-blooded murderer and a good person in pain.  A murderer acts on their impulses, a good person will listen to that "still small voice" and walk away.  The sin isn't in the initial flash of thought, the sin is in the dwelling on the thought and then acting on it.











As I read this, it saddens me. I remember how divided our country was over the shooting of Trayvon Martin, how "racist" and "unjust" that verdict was, and calls for DOJ to bring the "Racist killer" up on "Hate Crime" charges.  

Yet, the police were used to being called and having to respond to Nicole's house, due to her ex-husband, not even her husband, O.J. Simpson's violent rages, because he had a  propensity to loudly and violently threaten his ex-wife in front of witnesses and now it had escalated to his viciously stabbing and slashing her and her friend Ron Goldman. 


Ironically, after the verdict, I don't remember any threats of riots, any out cries of social injustice, or Al Sharpton calling on the DOJ look into why two white people who where viciously killed and this man was allowed to walk away, or that  it "had to be racially motivated", surely there would be "hate crime" charges pending and AG Eric Holder would get involved. 

Of course he wouldn't say that, this was a high profile, Heisman-winning, black man with a history of abuse towards his wife/ex-wife.  So why is this "unjust and racist treatment" only occurs when it's towards a person of color and not when the person of color is doing the killing, will someone please explain this one to me? Yet, people deny there's a "reverse racism" attitude in America?

However, if you're a rich and famous black man, with a defense-dream-team, you can get away with murder and society, Hollywood, Liberals, and the DOJ won't see anything unjust about it, even after O.J. writes a "confession" Book, "If I Did it."

Pablo Fenjves, author of O.J. Simpson’s controversial book, “If I Did It,” says the book’s original publisher told him it was a confession. Fenjves writes in a prologue to the book, obtained by this column exclusively, that Judith Regan, then of ReganBooks/HarperCollins, told him:

Are you still wondering why Kim is having dreams of squashing juice? I'm being snarky here, but I would love to know if it's a slow pursuit in a white bronco, before the final impact.  If I were her, and I'm a very forgiving person, but after his "tell-all-book," I may even have to dig deep to forgive him, so I can see why she's finding it so hard to forgive, and is filled with such rage that it is spilling over into her dreams; O.J. took away what was precious to her, he took away her brother, who didn't provoke the attack and was probably trying to protect Nicole, so he did nothing wrong.

Kim found herself alone with our judicial system - although it worked according to the law, the legal team and the money that paid for it. Our flawed system and its jurors allowed a guilty man to walk free (for a time), combine that with a majority of our society that backed the juicy devil and maybe you'll understand why 20-years-later, she still finds it hard today to forgive O.J. and would rather see him juiced in a cup.

22 comments:

  1. I empathize with Kim. It took me over five years, and I'm still not quite there yet. I keep working on it. It's the best I can do. But, yes, it does make a difference.

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  2. Kimberly Erin Goldman and Frederic Goldman, sister and dad of Ron L. Goldman the waiter who was killed with Nicole Brown Simpson. Many believe OJ Simpson (DNA is his)is guilty while OJ Simpson says he is innocent. But whether OJ Simpson did it or not, that case has for a long time been about money. Goldman family’s behavior for a long time been of those interested in money as they’ve has gotten rich while Denise Brown (Nicole Brown’s sister) to my knowledge isn’t profiting from her sister’s murder. When the hypothetical If I did it was released in 2006, Denise Brown had asked the book not be published as did Fred Goldman, but after Fred Goldman got the rights to the book, rather than end publication, he decided that it be sold and took the profits of a book that he says he was against, so it’s about money. Goldmans were against the book being published until they got the rights to this.

    Marcia Rachel Clark, Christopher Allen Darden, and others involved in the case both prosecution, defense and the detectives wrote books and got rich from this-When Detectives Mark J. Fuhrman, late Van Atter & Lange did this that defeated idea of what public service is-when they became cops, their job was to protect public, stop crimes, arrest those they think committed crimes and help prosecutors prove they’re guilty. But when they wrote books about this case and got rich, they defeated the idea of what public service is because cops and prosecutors job is public service and not get rich from crimes they investigate and solve-cops can’t accept rewards for catching criminals as it’s their job to do this.

    Marcia R. Clark made millions writing a book about the Simpson case and again, it defeats the idea of public service. Marcia R. Clark and Christopher A. Darden’s job was to prove that OJ Simpson committed a double murder to a jury. If there was a conviction, then punishment would’ve been done by a judge but their job ended with the acquittal & should’ve been the end of it whether he was innocent or guilty. If they (the prosecutors), Detective Fuhrman, etc. want to talk about the case to the media as to why the acquittal happened & why they believe he did this, then that’s 1 thing, but to write books and get rich was again wrong and against public service idea.

    But it's possible that Ron Lyle Goldman was the intended victim not Nicole Brown Simpson. Only the killer(s) know why they did it. The late engineer RJ Wagner saw the 1995 murder trial in it's entirety & he didn't believe OJ Simpson did it but visited the crime scene 15 to 20 minutes after the double murder happened, after being lured by the killers which if true would explain why his DNA was found. OJ Simpson and his ex-wife were involved with the Mob as was Ron L. Goldman-it has been speculated that Ron L. Goldman was a drug dealer and that this double murder was done by the Underworld. Yes, there was enough proof to convict OJ Simpson beyond a reasonable doubt (DNA) but there's enough doubts about this case to believe it was done by multiple killers. Kimberly E. Goldman has commented on this in that she is offended by suggestion her brother was a drug dealer. Here's how I answer that.


    We know that the restaurant Ron L. Goldman waited @ was run by drug dealers and it's believed Ron had $ problems. Could Ron have been a drug dealer or courier? I don't know but possibility can't be ruled out. You don't always know the secrets friends and family have and often times when it's discovered a friend or relative is a drug dealer or other criminal, it's the friends and family who get surprised. But regardless of why this murder happened or whether 1 believes OJ Simpson is innocent or guilty (which admittedly again proof with DNA was beyond a reasonable doubt), Kimberly E. Goldman now with her book is again interested in money and profits. If you have thoughts, then please share, because as the OJ Simpson case has sadly for a long time been about money

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  3. It still rubs me, but the judicial system did what Simpson paid it to do, and he definitely got what he paid for. The only upside, he's where he belongs and sick - Karma's a Fickle Bitc*.

    I was saddened for Kim, as any sister would be and angered for her parents, as any mother could be, by the verdict. Then I was horrified and embarrassed by the way our society acted as a whole, so I can understand and empathize with her pain and inability to want to forgive the man that caused her unimaginable anguish.

    All that being said, I was pleased to see her stop by, read the blog and tweet her approval, and hope she comes back to read your great comments. I still hope and pray that one day she can find it in her heart to forgive the monster, that will one day will die in prison, but not for him, for her.

    None of us are immune to a painful past, the only difference is in those that choose to allow the past to make them better or bitter. We shouldn't ever allow our choices to make us slaves to our past.

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  4. JR,
    Yes, I had a wonderful Mother's Day, thank you. For starters, thank you for coming by, don't ever start out apologizing for possibly ticking off readers **I'm concerned** have you read my blogs? ROFL

    Who doesn't have $ problems (except OJ at the time of his trial), DNA doesn't lie that's the only thing that tells the truth, people even family lie, because we've seen that suddenly memories and people change, when your life is on the line. Suddenly they find witnesses that will tell you that "Nicole and Ron were involved with the Mob," "Ron was a drug dealer," et. al - easy to say when the people they are slandering are dead and cannot defend themselves. Is it true, who knows-they are still dead, they weren't on trial, DNA doesn't lie and innocent men don't run from the police in packed white broncos.

    As for money, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A

    that's a diversionary liberal spin excuse, because the man wasn't "officially" mentally defective when he killed them and he was walking free at the time. Listen to Society when a black man kills anyone of ANY color, their rational: "he was mentally ill, bullied" or "provoked." So by their logic, the white man must be, "racist, evil, hateful, or hunting" when he kills?

    This case started out all about justice and turned out, when they could get justice through the court system, they were going to get vindication, especially after they saw that society and the Court of Public Opinion was against them.

    How were they supposed to swing that Jury, when they couldn't swing the other; by getting in their heads and writing about it. OJ wrote a tell-all "I Did It" and it was better that he confessed and got it out in his own words and didn't profit a dime on it.

    Even the Court Reporters made 6 figures on their transcripts during the court proceedings, because of who the subject matter was. Would you have done any different? If Nicole's parents chose to not make any money, writing about their experience, that is their choice. Being a blogger, I will tell you straight up, writing is cathartic and if I could make a million dollars doing it, I would in a NY Minute. So I don't begrudge any of them for trying to heal any way they can. They won their Civil suit and Simpson was found Liable in their deaths (they were Unanimous, I might add. http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/feb-1997-oj-simpson-civil-trial-verdict-9602762) (Trayvon's parents filed one too...so don't tell me Civil suits aren't the next step) and won't ever see that money.

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  5. Thanks Elizabeth. You are right that DNA doesn't lie. I do not believe the cops planted proof. Defense including F.Lee Bailey (believe he is the only lawyer who has continued talking with O.J.)admitted there was enough proof to have convicted OJ Simpson of double murder. F.Lee Bailey said he had proof of his innocence in news reports but so far has not followed on it. There is a theory people have suggested which if true would still make OJ Simpson just as guilty. OJ Simpson could have hired killers to do the murder, visits crime scene after the murder happened to see it was done which would explain DNA. Only the killer(s) again know why the murder happened as possibility of Ron being intended victim with Nicole losing her life trying to stop killer(s) can't be ruled out. The


    With making money-Goldman family can profit from this & it's their legal right though we can morally differ with them (well I do). I don't think there should be a law forbidding the victim's families from profiting only let's admit their interest is money. But with the detectives and prosecutors who wrote books (Marcia R. Clark made $4 million from the case) and are profiting, that is wrong-again they have laws against cops and prosecutors accepting rewards for arresting criminals because the view is that cops and prosecutors have a preexisting duty to arrest criminals and prove their guilt and IMO this law should be clarified where it forbids cops and prosecutors profiting from crimes they investigate-cops and prosecutors should have free speech right to talk about crimes they investigate but they should not be allowed to get profit from it.


    Fox News hired former Det. Mark J. Fuhrman as a crime commentator and this is wrong. If Mr. Fuhrman after his law enforcement career had wanted to become an actor or a businessman or other job not related to law enforcement where he makes millions, then that would have been fine. But when Mr. Fuhrman wrote a book on the OJ Simpson case (as did other detectives) and has since then been profiting from this as a crime commentator, that is wrong. I was wondering Elizabeth if you agree with my idea that there should be a law forbidding public servants (cops, firemen, paramedics) from profiting from their jobs because when public servants get rich and profit from their jobs, that defeats the idea of what public service is. Not enough people have critiqued Furhman and others who have made millions from the OJ Simpson case.

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  6. **new thread**
    JR, for some reason, I can't reply to your comment, so I'll have to continue here, The question is, should public servants profit from doing what was their job?

    This is a slippery slope that fortunately doesn't come up too often and if it hadn't been for the fame of the Defendant, and the cost of the Case, I really don't think it would have come up. Even you would agree, there was a lot of interest (some unnatural) in this case, and even a market for this kind of book, otherwise there wouldn't have been a dime to be made.

    However, as a fireman's daughter, I do agree that it defeats the idea and public perception of what "public service" is all about. Should it be forbidden? It already has a caveat, like the "patient-client confidentiality," "Libel and Slander" laws, so it's not as if anyone was writing deep dark secrets that weren't already in evidence, they were just "point of views," already stated in evidence.

    Not to mention, all of the Prosecution and their witnesses, including Furhman, where socially mutilated for years and branded racists, so perhaps their hardbound-wordsmith catharsis was much needed to release the nightmares they were carrying around with them. We each need to psychologically purge in different ways, maybe this was their way. They just happened to profit from it, a side effect from the medicine, and since it was O.J. and not Tom Jones, the books sold, without hypnosis or arm bending.

    As for "famous" public servants having careers outside of infamous cases; why not? Should that be their biggest and last case? That would be like Tootsie being Dustin Hoffman's biggest and best roll - and his last. So, Furhman being on Fox, more power to him; he's rarely on or asked about OJ, if ever and even then it's never in detail and only in passing.

    So I guess it's a good thing these cases are few and far between and the books are usually limited to the families exercising their demons through the written word. We live in the greatest Country in the world, where speech is free and people are free to spend their money in a market that will stock their shelves with these books. :)

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  7. Thanks Elizabeth for thoughts. You're right about Det. Mark J. Fuhrman being labeled racist. Again, I would support his free speech right to speak about the OJ Simpson murder case only that he should make no money from this. Det. Fuhrman would have a right to get pension which cops, firefighters, etc. make after retirement. Public servants are not poor. If Det. Mark J. Fuhrman wanted to be a movie star or other job unrelated to law enforcement where he got rich, then that would be fine with me. There are people who have worked in public service but lost interest and went on to other professions such as business because they wanted to make money. Again, that is fine with me.


    I do want to make edits thinking about what you said about writing a book. I would have no problem with the prosecutors and cops writing a book about the OJ Simpson case if they made no money from it and did not get rich. Any and all money made from the book would go to the state not the public servants involved. If Det. Mark J. Fuhrman wants to work as Fox crime commentator (I don't have cable anymore) but earns nothing from this, then it would be fine with me. Again, I support free speech rights for public servants to talk about crimes they solve but what I am against are public servants profiting from this. If you have other thoughts, then please comment but I don't think there is anything more I can say. Thanks again.

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  8. I'm so glad you came by, this was a lot of fun, and I look forward to doing it again. As a side note, Ron Goldman's sister, Kim, has actually used her experience, and the money she earned from opening up her life to the world, to become a victim's rights activist. She helps and testifies for abused children and is currently on a child molestation case: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Miramonte-School-Child-Abuse-Investigation-138944079.html

    I look forward to our next discussion. :)

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  9. Read police hall of fame William Dear's book. OJ is innocent. Police and prosecutors who hear Dear speak change their minds, and believe OJ is innocent. Police had endless leads on other suspects, but ignored them all. Det. Mark Fuhrman had bragged about having sex with OJ's wife. Fuhrman openly hated interracial couples, hated blacks, put a Nazi swastika on a fellow officer's locker. Fuhrman planted OJ's glove, planted blood. The judge in the civil trial would not allow a defense that police framed OJ. Gil Garcetti's office concealed all the evidence of Fuhrman's racism and misconduct. The civil jury never knew about Fuhrman or even that Fuhrman had a perjury conviction. Fuhrman was the lead investigator in OJ's case. Furham was the officer who made up the original stories about OJ's domestic violence. OJ was innocent of that as well. The Goldman family were out for money, gold diggers hoping to get OJ's money. They were ghouls out for blood money, making money off Ron's death. Like vampires, they need more, never satisfied. Their greed knows no end. They have no concern over finding the real killers, who are likely drug dealers who did a professional hit for delinquent drug debts, on Nicole and Ron. Before Obama leaves office, he will pardon OJ, perhaps Obama's most courageous act, given the level of racism in America.

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  10. OJ's Dream Team had the proof with more witnesses that would have convinced anyone OJ was innocent. Instead of call those witnesses, they rested the defense. They said that was because they feared the State would move for a mistrial, for any tiny error. They knew OJ was innocent, knew they had won the trial, so they stopped, rested, and left the public with a perception of watching mostly the prosecution's case. OJ is totally innocent, a victim of racist police and prosecution. The Goldman family do not want to know who killed Nicole and Ron, unless that person is wealthier than OJ. They want only money. They have cash registers where most people have a heart. They are greedy vindictive and obsessed with anger. They are a lesson to everyone. Their own greed has tortured and destroyed them. They are no longer human.

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  11. After the first 2 witnesses from the prosecution, it became obvious to anyone that police framed OJ, planted his blood at the crime scene. OJ was framed. The civil judge would not allow OJ to argue he was framed. He was railroaded, for money. The Goldmans are gold diggers, who never cared about Ron, but only about money. Fred Goldman pretended his poor son will never be able to open the restaurant he dreamed of. Fred refused to give Ron any money to help him open a restaurant. Fred knew Ron was a drug addict. Fred knew another waiter at Ron's restaurant was murdered over drugs. Fred knew Ron died killed by a drug pusher. Fred knew OJ was innocent. But Fred wanted OJ's money. The entire Goldman family, all gold diggers, sick greedy people willing to see an innocent man go to prison, all so they could profit. The LA police department was racist. So are the Goldmans. All racist pigs. Greedy, racist pigs.

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  12. The Goldmans, all gold diggers give Jews a bad name. The Goldmans pretend they believe OJ is guilty, so they can feel better about stealing his money, sending him to prison for money. If anyone deserved a death penalty, it's the Goldmans. Not OJ. Racism explains why OJ is in prison. Al Sharpton is a coward for not coming to OJ's defense. Jesse Jackson betrayed OJ. Black leaders are cowardly wimps for not defending OJ. But Obama may still yet pardon OJ. That would not rectify the injustice done to OJ, but at least give him some reparations, for what the Goldmans did. The Goldmans are the crminals in this case. OJ is totally innocent.

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  13. I don't believe the LAPD framed OJ Simpson but as I said, the late RJ Wagner who is an engineer and is White watched the 1995 murder trial and he did not think OJ Simpson did it but visited crime scene after the murder was committed by the Underworld or Mob. RJ Wagner did not profit from the case and on his site, the late RJ Wagner said what he sincerely believed based on how he saw the evidence, doing his own science tests and he believes it was done by the Mob. The late RJ Wagner whether 1 agrees or differs with his conclusion, sincerely believed what he did after thinking about it.
    With Goldmans, do they believe OJ Simpson did it? I think they believe he did it. But you are right about the Goldman's being mainly interested in profiting from Ron L. Goldman's death with the books they have written so it is about money. It has as I've said, sadly become about money. The LAPD believe OJ Simpson did it and if police believe some1 committed a crime, they almost never change their mind unless new proof comes up which changes earlier conclusion. Police typically say that if they believe a person committed a crime, they will arrest him or her and help prosecutors prove the person guilty. If the person is convicted, they will say they're right. If a person is acquitted cops and prosecutors will say that they believe a person committed a crime & they did what they could but jury acquitted. Police and prosecutors usually don't change their minds unless new evidence comes up which changes their conclusion. Unless new proof were to arise in OJ Simpson case, the LAPD will believe OJ Simpson did it and won't change their view because he was acquitted.
    As you know, I have critiqued public servants Mark J. Fuhrman, Marcia R. Clark and others for writing books and profiting as what they did defeated idea of what public service is.

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  14. Sure, O.J. was a "pussy cat" and Furhman mad all of O.J.'s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf93uxgKBI domestic violence up.

    As for the 'Level of racism' in America, Obama doesn't help that either and definitely wouldn't help it by pardoning a guilty man, who is in prison for kidnapping, armed robbery and other charges http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/nevada-oj-simpson/index.html but that's an argument for another day, and another blog.

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  15. Elizabeth, my thanks to you for reading and replying to my posts. I have final thoughts on this and hope you can comment. As OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder, while many believe he did it but was acquitted, do you agree that it's best we now leave this between him and his Maker? Though I didn't see the Casey Marie Anthony murder trial, there are many who believe Casey murdered her daughter but she was acquitted.


    In these 2 cases, cops arrested a man they believe committed a double murder and a woman they believe murdered her daughter. The cops gathered their proof to help the prosecutors but the 2 were acquitted as jury saw differently. As both were acquitted, some would say that this should be the end. Would you agree Elizabeth that it's best to go with this view on both of them-if they are innocent as they say, then it's bad both of them esp. OJ has had to deal with this for years, if both are guilty as people think the evidence shows, then both will have to live with what they did.


    Incidentally, OJ Simpson has said that he doesn't care if strangers believe he is innocent or guilty but what he cares about is what his friends and family think of him. OJ Simpson is ruined. Finally with the other poster Barack who has posted here. The discussion about race which poster Barack wrote does get old and dull. But poster Barack is right when he repeats what I wrote about the case being sadly about money and Goldman's family's interest for a long time has been about money. You know what I wrote about the cops and prosecutors getting rich from this case. People who believe OJ Simpson is innocent (or say he is) as poster Barack did are right when they raise money because are Kimberly Erin Goldman and her dad Fred care about Ronald Lyle Goldman being murdered or do both Kim and Fred care about money and getting rich from Ron's murder regardless of who did it and why it happened? When you do things for money and profits as the Goldman family and others have done, people have doubts about credibility and sincerity-poster Barack does not believe the Goldmans are sincere. If you have thoughts, please share though I don't think we'll raise much new.

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  16. First things first - let's finally address the money and bury that dead horse. The society that put O.J. on a pedestal, while raking the victim's families and the prosecution team and their witness over the coals - not what our judicial system was ever written to do, to put the victims on trial - didn't care when O.J. was set to make millions on the deaths of the people he "allegedly" murdered, right? So why the monetary double standard?

    There will always be a racial double standard in everything, even murder, in America, whether the annon Barack wishes to admit it or not, which is why he's also for our Empiric leader pardoning a guilty man for kidnapping and robbery.

    Finally, no, O.J., as Zimmerman and Casey Anthony all had their day in court. It's a Court of Law, not the Court of Public Opinion; unfortunately, America forgets that, as we watch them obsess over Zimmerman's comings and goings to this day.

    They all sat before a "jury of their peers" and paid to have whatever evidence they could get suppressed or presented before those peers heard and were acquitted. However, as we saw with O.J., it was only a matter of time before he wound up behind bars, where he belonged, because a leopard can't change it's spots and Karma will always bite you in the as*.

    We may not have a perfect judicial system, but we have the best legal system in the world. If I were going to break a law, by God's grace, I'd want to do it in our country and not someone else's country. :)

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  17. Thanks again. Thing is though is that OJ Simpson has not gotten rich from the double murder so there's no double standard. OJ Simpson since the murder case has been ruined because many believe he committed murder and got away with it. With the Las Vegas robbery, he was convicted as this jury believed the prosecutor's case. But as people who believe OJ Simpson is innocent would say-they are 2 different cases and the fact OJ Simpson is an armed robber does not prove he murdered 2 people. It's possible to be innocent of 1 crime but guilty of another. If you're accused of a crime and are acquitted, human nature is to wonder if you're guilty but beat the accusation. The legal system as you say is not perfect. Sometimes people we believe are guilty are acquitted while people who are innocent are convicted.
    But to the Zimmerman trial. I do not believe it was a hate crime. My reason for convicting George Michael Zimmerman of negligent homicide THOUGH HE ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE is because as a security guard he did not follow rules which he was supposed to know when he was trained for this job and he should’ve ended pursuit when asked to and let cops take it from there.
    Yes, the jury did what they believe is right verdict. But his situation would’ve been avoided if he had waited for the cops to arrive and he knew this as a security guard. George M. Zimmerman once wanted to be a cop but my guess is a reason he wasn’t hired for police work is because he acts on his own & doesn’t believe in teamwork. The prosecutor overcharged him and what they should’ve done is argue to jury that once the dispatcher told George M. Zimmerman not to follow Trayvon B. Martin, he should’ve stopped.

    My reason for believing it’s negligent homicide is because the incident would’ve been avoided if George M. Zimmerman had waited for the cops to arrive and take care of Trayvon B. Martin and as George M. Zimmerman’s a security guard night watchman, he is held to higher care standard. George M. Zimmerman did not do that and instead acted on his own which he had no right to do. The prosecutor should’ve told jury that these are the rules security guards are to follow and George M. Zimmerman violated them. But prosecutor poorly tried this case by overcharging and while this was not Murder 2, George M. Zimmerman was negligent.

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  18. O.J. didn't make millions, but not for trying. The only reason was because the Goldman's took the tool out of his hands, his hardback confession, or their "gold digging" money would have been his, and society - who is angry at them for their "fortune" - would be, what, fine with O.J. getting the money?

    Zimmerman was a mess of a case, from beginning to end. It was offered up to society as a Black vs. White - but wait, Zimmerman was Hispanic, but that fact didn't matter.

    It also didn't matter that Zimmerman didn't know what race Martin was, at the time, or that kids had a habit of breaking into the neighborhood and "getting away with it."

    It also didn't matter, to our mob society, that Zimmerman lost Martin and in that time, Martin had time to get home but he chose to come back and confront Zimmerman, punch him in the nose and start a fight, which led to his death.

    Unlike the O.J. trial, Martin was never allowed to be put on trial like Ron or Nicole. His phone texts and pics, backpack contents and fighting past were instantly suppressed, as were what those "skittles and ice tea" actually make. http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/it-wasnt-just-skittles-trayvon-was-carrying/

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  19. With Trayvon - yes he was a troubled man and I don't think it was race motivated. But even with Trayvon's past, I still believe George M. Zimmerman should have been found guilty of negligent homicide. As George M. Zimmerman was a security guard, he knew what his training was and it was not his place to follow Trayvon after he was told by dispatcher to end pursuit. He should have let the cops arrive and they would have arrested Trayvon and put him in jail if Trayvon was doing something wrong. Have talked to 1 cop who agrees with me that it’s negligent homicide because George M. Zimmerman’s held to higher requirement as a night watchman/security guard based on his training.



    Incidentally, George M. Zimmerman has had accusations against him for domestic violence assault & battery. He was not convicted of any of them, but the man himself is a mess. But again, the prosecutor poorly tried the case. What they should have done is discuss to jury this is what George M. Zimmerman's training was as a security guard and have trainers describe this. The jury would then decide if Zimmerman was negligent or not. I guess a synonym is let's say a cop brings in a junky who is handcuffed & high on drugs. If the cop were to take the handcuffs on this high person and the person reacts violently after which cop shoots the junky dead-cop could be convicted of negligent homicide though he acted in self-defense because by the cops training, they are not to remove handcuffs from a person high on drugs. They are trained to take the junky to the jail and if not mistaken keep him cuffed until the drugs wear out and they are not to act alone. It's more complex but it's my view what George M. Zimmerman did was negligent and unprofessional & though he should have been convicted of negligent homicide, I don't fault the jury for acquitting him because the prosecutor did a poor job.


    But it must be said that Nicole and Ron were not put on trial by the defense. There was no excuse for the race arguments done on Det. Fuhrman but to my knowledge the defense did not tell the jury Ronald Lyle Goldman was a drug dealer. Defense wanted to raise reasonable doubt. It is true again, that the restaurant Ron L. Goldman waited @ was run by mob and he had knowledge of this but this was brought out in media not in the murder trial. It is in media I read about this accusation not in murder trial. Again, I don't know if Ron L. Goldman was a drug dealer. Of course his family Fred and Kim are offended by this but again, you don't always know the secrets friends and family. Ron wanted to live the good life in California moving from Illinois and believe he wanted to be a model. Could have have had money problems where Ron works with drug dealers to pay his bills? Possible-others have done the same thing when they get desperate for money and it would not be the worst crime-Normal people are capable of committing crimes such as drug dealing when they have money problems.


    Now I know people will say that it's talking about a dead man who is not here to defend himself. But keep in mind that the Goldman family have continued speaking to media and saying that Ron was a saint. Ron Lyle Goldman's a normal man as I see it, but is he the saint his family says he was? I don't know. What we know is what the Goldman family has been saying for years which may or may not be true. Of course the Goldman's will say Ron was a saint-it's human nature for family members to speak highly of their relatives whether or not it's true. If you have thoughts then comment again and I know this topic has gone on longer than I expected.

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  20. Rofl@ Ron being entered into Sainthood. No person is a saint.

    Trayvon was an angry kid, with issues, that did something stupid (we all did but were fortunate enough to live through our mistakes) and paid for it with his life and this case, you're right, had nothing to do with race.

    As for Zimmerman, who - neglect or not, wouldn't have been in the situation had an angry child not sought out a fight and either gone home or used his mouth and asked Zimmerman what he wanted - as with O.J., society needs to let it go.

    However, what right does everyone have to keep Zimmerman on trial and under a MSM microscope? He saved a person in a car wreck, but the good will never outweigh the bad for him.

    Can we imagine where the Christian faith would today had Society held Saul's past against him long after he became Paul?
    Only in America do we refuse to forgive others but insist - no demand - to be forgiven for our transgressions against others.

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  21. Though you didn't raise this, I don't agree with harassing George M. Zimmerman & there's no excuse for giving out name and address of I believe his grandmother . He was acquitted, but since his acquittal he has had arrests for assault & battery-domestic violence, but no, he has not been convicted of any of them. George M. Zimmerman could be innocent of the domestic violence accusations but when he has been arrested, the media will publicize his arrest and human nature is to wonder if George M. Zimmerman beats his women and then beats the criminal charge in court. The best thing for George M. Zimmerman to do if he does not want media attention is to stay out of trouble.


    While George M. Zimmerman was acquitted, I would be against him working in law enforcement or as a security guard and I don't think a rational police department would hire him. If George M. Zimmerman wants to be an accountant then that would be fine. But I would not want to hire a man in law enforcement when IMO he can not go by what he was trained to do as a security guard but instead tries to be hero by making his own rules. As said, law enforcement, fire department (you're dad was a fireman), paramedics are about public service, not heroism. Sure, a fireman who saves the life of a woman and her baby from a burning building is seen as a hero, but that is their job. Same with a paramedic who saves a heart attack victim-it's their job to do this.

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  22. :)
    You actually make my point for me; WHY do we even know what Georgie has been up to, if the mainstream media hasn't been up his keester since the trial? If his name was Johnson or Nelson, we would never know. ALL of the charges were conveniently dropped, so perhaps his womenz were doing it as much to get their name in the news as they were to put his name back in the news. It's sad to even have to say, "If he wants to stay out of the public eye he should keep be a good boy..."

    What country are we in, when our LameStream media and a lynch mob makes Trayvon a Martyr and George Zimmerman an instant celebrity, but Amb. Chris Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Tyrone Woods are forgotten?

    Forgiveness is divine and we used to be a Country considered Exceptional, but now we are ordinary, divisive and spiteful.

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